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Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup2-Dec-2005/1:01:15
Other useful photography forums & sites:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/
http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/
http://www.photo-forums.com/WebX?14@@.ee6b2a8

I'm sure there are others - these are a few that I've found interesting &
helpful (In addition to this group).

I'd also pursue http://www.newsservers.net/FreeNewsServers.htm as suggeted
previously.

Barry


"Celcius" wrote in message
news:iKGdnaaSuPM8zA3eRVn-tA@rogers.com...
> Hi all!
>
> I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very professional.
> However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this morning that it was
> discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
> I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
> *rec.photo.digital* .
> Can someone suggest a free alternative.
> Thanks.
>
> Marcel
>
>
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup2-Dec-2005/2:27:50
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 08:52:32 -0500, "Celcius"
wrote:

>Hi all!
>
>I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very professional.
>However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this morning that it was
>discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
>I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
>*rec.photo.digital* .
>Can someone suggest a free alternative.
>Thanks.
>
>Marcel
>

Might check these out.

http://www.newsservers.net/FreeNewsServers.htm


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"I have been a witness, and these pictures are
my testimony. The events I have recorded should
not be forgotten and must not be repeated."

-James Nachtwey-
http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup2-Dec-2005/3:01:34
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 08:52:32 -0500, "Celcius"
wrote:

>Hi all!
>
>I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very professional.
>However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this morning that it was
>discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
>I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
>*rec.photo.digital* .
>Can someone suggest a free alternative.
>Thanks.

You might want to check out what ever new feed you get that they have:

rec.photo.digital.slr-systems

It's also useful.
******************************************************

"I have been a witness, and these pictures are
my testimony. The events I have recorded should
not be forgotten and must not be repeated."

-James Nachtwey-
http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup2-Dec-2005/3:52:32
Hi all!

I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very professional.
However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this morning that it was
discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
*rec.photo.digital* .
Can someone suggest a free alternative.
Thanks.

Marcel
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup2-Dec-2005/4:53:17
Celcius wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very professional.
> However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this morning that it was
> discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
> I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
> *rec.photo.digital* .
> Can someone suggest a free alternative.

If 5 bucks a month doesn't mean you'll be skipping meals, you might
want to try Supernews or Giganews. They have plans starting at
that rate.

Of course you can also join the league of cheap-ass nitwits, spammers and
miscreants and go to Google groups.. It's web access, but it's free.
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup2-Dec-2005/4:54:35
"Celcius" wrote:
> I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very professional.
> However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this morning that it was
> discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
> I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
> *rec.photo.digital* .
> Can someone suggest a free alternative.

Teranews:
http://www.teranews.com

Jon
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup2-Dec-2005/5:57:31
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 09:01:15 -0800, "Barry K" wrote:

>Other useful photography forums & sites:
>
>http://www.dpreview.com/forums/
>http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/
>http://www.photo-forums.com/WebX?14@@.ee6b2a8

Add to that list:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/

http://www.bobatkins.com/

http://www.digitaljournalist.org/contents.html


******************************************************

"I have been a witness, and these pictures are
my testimony. The events I have recorded should
not be forgotten and must not be repeated."

-James Nachtwey-
http://www.jamesnachtwey.com/
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup2-Dec-2005/9:10:26
"Celcius" wrote in message
news:iKGdnaaSuPM8zA3eRVn-tA@rogers.com...
> Hi all!
>
> I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very professional.
> However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this morning that it was
> discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
> I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
> *rec.photo.digital* .
> Can someone suggest a free alternative.
> Thanks.
>
> Marcel
>
>
Google Groups is free but I don't think you can hide your e-mail address
when posting to a Usenet, leaving you open to address harvesters.
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup2-Dec-2005/9:13:31
On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 10:53:17 -0600, Henry wrote:

>> Can someone suggest a free alternative.
>
> If 5 bucks a month doesn't mean you'll be skipping meals, you might
> want to try Supernews or Giganews. They have plans starting at
> that rate.

Another "for pay" option is Astraweb, which in addition to the
usual monthly fee for unlimited downloads also sells blocks of
bandwidth. But unlike most other servers, Astraweb's blocks don't
expire after a month or some other period. The smallest block costs
$10 and is good for 25 GB. They carry rec.photo.digital and if you
use Astraweb only for text newsgroups such as r.p.d. that $10 fee
might well last for decades before a significant dent is put into
that 25 GB limit. The claimed retention is 25 days.

Still another is news.individual.net. They've been highly
regarded for a number of years but are no longer free:

> Important notice:
>
> Effective from April 1st, 2005, use of News.Individual.NET is not free of
> charge anymore. The news service continues as a fee-based service. The
> fee for an account for News.Individual.NET is 10 EUR per year (annual
> payment), that converts to only 0.84 EUR per month.

Unlike Astraweb, they carry no binary newsgroups. But instead of
an overall retention of 25 days, the minimum retention for most
heirarchies appears to be 41 days, with "rec" being 61 days. I
can't verify that "rec" contains rec.photo.digital, but it probably
does.

http://www.news.astraweb.com/

http://news.individual.net/
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup2-Dec-2005/14:03:40
Celcius wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very professional.
> However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this morning that it was
> discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
> I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
> *rec.photo.digital* .
> Can someone suggest a free alternative.
> Thanks.
>
> Marcel
>
>
Google Groups maybe? It does require a gmail account to sign in on,
however use of Google Groups is free as is Gmail itself.

http://groups.google.com
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JasonB
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup2-Dec-2005/14:03:48
"Celcius" wrote in message
news:iKGdnaaSuPM8zA3eRVn-tA@rogers.com...
> Hi all!
>
> I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very professional.
> However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this morning that it was
> discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
> I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
> *rec.photo.digital* .
> Can someone suggest a free alternative.
> Thanks.
>
> Marcel
>
>

Thank you all!
You've been a great help.
I'll see what I'm going to do now.
Take care,
Marcel
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup2-Dec-2005/15:28:24
jasonb wrote:
> Celcius wrote:
>
>> Hi all!
>>
>> I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very professional.
>> However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this morning that it was
>> discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
>> I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
>> *rec.photo.digital* .
>> Can someone suggest a free alternative.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Marcel
>>
>>
> Google Groups maybe? It does require a gmail account to sign in on,
> however use of Google Groups is free as is Gmail itself.
>
> http://groups.google.com

Actually, it requires only a valid email address; GMail is NOT a requisite.


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Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup2-Dec-2005/16:14:26
"Celcius" wrote in message
news:iKGdnaaSuPM8zA3eRVn-tA@rogers.com...
> Hi all!
>
> I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very
professional.
> However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this morning that it was
> discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
> I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
> *rec.photo.digital* .
> Can someone suggest a free alternative.
> Thanks.
>
> Marcel

Hi Marcel, I'm with Rogers too (the rats cutting off our NG's). They
obviously have their own Agenda in mind. I don't believe their so called
justification for not providing NG's any more. We are supposed to read
blogs which according to them is what most people do.They also put my
high speed lite version up $5.00 a month to add insult to injury.. I got
a notice yesterday from them, but I knew about this from one of the
Toronto NG's a week or so ago. I got some ideas there but haven't had
time to check them out. I will look at what they suggested when I have a
minute and let you know what they are. I have been kind of busy but will
need to look for a news provider soon. I am so ticked off with Rogers, I
might have changed to Sympatico DSL but they are not in my area even
though I live in the city. It has something to do with you have to with
being close to a transmission terminal or something. so people in
surrounding area could have it, and you might not, even if you live in
the city. Didn't you say one time that you were in Montreal?

Cathy
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup2-Dec-2005/16:28:48
"Mardon" wrote in message
news:Xns9720B5BE89ECDmgb72mgbhotmailcom@140.99.99.130...
> Henry wrote in news:1__jf.47$6J2.2@fe23.lga:
>
> > Celcius wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all!
> >>
> >> I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very
> >> professional. However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this
morning
> >> that it was discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
> >> I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
> >> *rec.photo.digital* .
> >> Can someone suggest a free alternative.
> >
> > If 5 bucks a month doesn't mean you'll be skipping meals, you might
> > want to try Supernews or Giganews. They have plans starting at
> > that rate.
> >
> > Of course you can also join the league of cheap-ass nitwits,
spammers
> > and miscreants and go to Google groups.. It's web access, but it's
> > free.
>
> I'm also a Rogers customer who has been forced to look elsewhere for a
> newsfeed because of Rogers's decision to discontinue providing Usenet
> service to its customers. I will not be switching to Giganews or any
> Giganews reseller, however. My reason for avoiding them is that I'm
> suspicious that the recent Usenet changes by Rogers are part of an
> orchestrated business plan between Rogers and Giganews to remove
Usenet
> costs from Rogers and deliver additional Usenet revenue to Giganews.

That wouldn't surprise me at all.

> If
> true, they should come out and say so. It was only a short time ago
that
> Rogers discontinued its own NNTP servers and switched its customers
onto
> Giganews servers. Now just a few months later, Rogers is
discontinuing
> Usenet service altogether and has posted a notice on its web pages
> suggesting that its customers can continue getting Usenet by buying it
> from Giganews. All this seems too coincidental to be anything but
part
> of a pre-formulated business plan to move customers from Rogers's free
> Usenet service to Giganews's fee-based service. Perhaps this is being
too
> paranoid but I doubt it.

I am not sure if its exactly the things above, but I agree with the
events as you state them above. I
think its probably something along those lines though and definitely for
Rogers benefit and not for customers benefit but we will never know as
it is behind-the-scenes. Even the wording Rogers use on their web site
and the message sent to Rogers customers sound fake and contrived. Their
supposed justification is because Usenet is out of date and people
mainly have blogs now and there is always MS Instant Message, and there
is always google groups. They said that only 30, 000 of Rogers customers
use Usenet. That is quite a lot of users. My monthly Internet bill never
went down because of withdrawal of NG's. It went UP. I have lite high
speed internet.Somehow, it reminds me of companies who say "this is for
the customers benefit or protection or convenience" when you can easily
see is for THEIR benefit.

> In any event, I've signed up with EasyNews. I
> originally signed up with NewsHosting but cancelled that service when
> they failed to activate posting rights despite numerous requests using
> their proscribed methods. I am happy with EasyNews.

Well, we will all have to look around for a new news provider now.

Cathy
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup2-Dec-2005/20:01:41
"Graham" wrote in message
news:bKydnRgn3YiCAQ3enZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@rogers.com...
>
> "Celcius" wrote in message
> news:iKGdnaaSuPM8zA3eRVn-tA@rogers.com...
>> Hi all!
>>
>> I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very professional.
>> However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this morning that it was
>> discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
>> I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
>> *rec.photo.digital* .
>> Can someone suggest a free alternative.
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Marcel
>>
>>
> Google Groups is free but I don't think you can hide your e-mail address
> when posting to a Usenet, leaving you open to address harvesters.
I switched isp's but never updated google which lets me sign in on the
obsolete account I don't use google ng's now. You can sign up with Netzero
or free email account and get yourself a throw away account. Google is slow
to update posts. I used to use teranews, they were free at the time I used
them - quite good.
Dave Cohen
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup2-Dec-2005/20:12:25
> Celcius wrote:
>
>> Hi all!
>>
>> I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very professional.
>> However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this morning that it was
>> discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
>> I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
>> *rec.photo.digital* .
>> Can someone suggest a free alternative.
>

news.aioe.org

no password
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup2-Dec-2005/21:21:59
Henry wrote in news:1__jf.47$6J2.2@fe23.lga:

> Celcius wrote:
>
>> Hi all!
>>
>> I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very
>> professional. However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this morning
>> that it was discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
>> I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
>> *rec.photo.digital* .
>> Can someone suggest a free alternative.
>
> If 5 bucks a month doesn't mean you'll be skipping meals, you might
> want to try Supernews or Giganews. They have plans starting at
> that rate.
>
> Of course you can also join the league of cheap-ass nitwits, spammers
> and miscreants and go to Google groups.. It's web access, but it's
> free.

I'm also a Rogers customer who has been forced to look elsewhere for a
newsfeed because of Rogers's decision to discontinue providing Usenet
service to its customers. I will not be switching to Giganews or any
Giganews reseller, however. My reason for avoiding them is that I'm
suspicious that the recent Usenet changes by Rogers are part of an
orchestrated business plan between Rogers and Giganews to remove Usenet
costs from Rogers and deliver additional Usenet revenue to Giganews. If
true, they should come out and say so. It was only a short time ago that
Rogers discontinued its own NNTP servers and switched its customers onto
Giganews servers. Now just a few months later, Rogers is discontinuing
Usenet service altogether and has posted a notice on its web pages
suggesting that its customers can continue getting Usenet by buying it
from Giganews. All this seems too coincidental to be anything but part
of a pre-formulated business plan to move customers from Rogers's free
Usenet service to Giganews's fee-based service. Perhaps this is being too
paranoid but I doubt it. In any event, I've signed up with EasyNews. I
originally signed up with NewsHosting but cancelled that service when
they failed to activate posting rights despite numerous requests using
their proscribed methods. I am happy with EasyNews.
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup3-Dec-2005/2:54:23
"Cathy" wrote in message
news:94adnbzBk7zrYw3eRVn-vw@rogers.com...
> "Celcius" wrote in message
> news:iKGdnaaSuPM8zA3eRVn-tA@rogers.com...
> > Hi all!
> >
> > I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very
> professional.
> > However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this morning that it was
> > discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
> > I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
> > *rec.photo.digital* .
> > Can someone suggest a free alternative.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Marcel
>
> Hi Marcel, I'm with Rogers too (the rats cutting off our NG's). They
> obviously have their own Agenda in mind. I don't believe their so called
> justification for not providing NG's any more. We are supposed to read
> blogs which according to them is what most people do.They also put my
> high speed lite version up $5.00 a month to add insult to injury.. I got
> a notice yesterday from them, but I knew about this from one of the
> Toronto NG's a week or so ago. I got some ideas there but haven't had
> time to check them out. I will look at what they suggested when I have a
> minute and let you know what they are. I have been kind of busy but will
> need to look for a news provider soon. I am so ticked off with Rogers, I
> might have changed to Sympatico DSL but they are not in my area even
> though I live in the city. It has something to do with you have to with
> being close to a transmission terminal or something. so people in
> surrounding area could have it, and you might not, even if you live in
> the city. Didn't you say one time that you were in Montreal?
>
> Cathy

Cathy,

I'm in Orléans (Ottawa)
Whatever you do, forget about Bell Sympatico. Their service is very bad.
I'm also looking for a new service provider. To compare, look at:
http://www.canadianisp.com/
If you need more info, write to me directly at: c-o-s-m-a-r-AT- r-o-g-e-r-s-
DOT- c-o-m (without al the -----)

Marcel
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup3-Dec-2005/10:01:37
"Celcius" wrote in message
news:O9adnSUCAJ7iCAzeRVn-qA@rogers.com...
>
> "Cathy" wrote in message
> news:94adnbzBk7zrYw3eRVn-vw@rogers.com...
> > "Celcius" wrote in message
> > news:iKGdnaaSuPM8zA3eRVn-tA@rogers.com...
> > > Hi all!
> > >
> > > I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very
> > professional.
> > > However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this morning that it was
> > > discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
> > > I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
> > > *rec.photo.digital* .
> > > Can someone suggest a free alternative.
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Marcel
> >
> > Hi Marcel, I'm with Rogers too (the rats cutting off our NG's). They
> > obviously have their own Agenda in mind. I don't believe their so
called
> > justification for not providing NG's any more. We are supposed to
read
> > blogs which according to them is what most people do.They also put
my
> > high speed lite version up $5.00 a month to add insult to injury.. I
got
> > a notice yesterday from them, but I knew about this from one of the
> > Toronto NG's a week or so ago. I got some ideas there but haven't
had
> > time to check them out. I will look at what they suggested when I
have a
> > minute and let you know what they are. I have been kind of busy but
will
> > need to look for a news provider soon. I am so ticked off with
Rogers, I
> > might have changed to Sympatico DSL but they are not in my area even
> > though I live in the city. It has something to do with you have to
with
> > being close to a transmission terminal or something. so people in
> > surrounding area could have it, and you might not, even if you live
in
> > the city. Didn't you say one time that you were in Montreal?
> >
> > Cathy
>
> Cathy,
>
> I'm in Orléans (Ottawa)
> Whatever you do, forget about Bell Sympatico. Their service is very
bad.

I haven't heard that its bad in Toronto area. My daughter has Sympatico
and they haven't complained about it. I know several others too, and
they seem to be OK with Sympatico.

> I'm also looking for a new service provider. To compare, look at:
> http://www.canadianisp.com/

I've seen that site before, but I am not looking for a new ISP right
now. Rogers is OK for emails and browsing. They were down in my area for
4 hours a few nights ago, but must have been something big as they are
not usually down that long. For the most part, they seem to be reliable.
As I said above, I can't get Sympatico high speed anyway as they are not
available in my area of the city. I am going to look for a free news
server that is good if there are any. I only need text news server. I
don't do binaries. Why don't you just look for a free news server and
stay with Rogers? Their email and internet service is usually OK. I just
don't like their politics. They have too much monopolyof the market now
in TV cable and into cell phones and other interests, and not much
competition. Never a good scenario.

> If you need more info, write to me directly at: c-o-s-m-a-r-AT-
r-o-g-e-r-s-
> DOT- c-o-m (without al the -----)

OK. I noted your address.

Cathy
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup3-Dec-2005/14:41:37
In article , "Celcius"
wrote:

> I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very professional.
> > However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this morning that it was
> > discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
> > I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
> > *rec.photo.digital* .
> > Can someone suggest a free alternative.
> > Thanks.

Marcel-

I was faced with this problem when AOL ended their access to newsgroups.
I found a web site that claims to furnish the latest info on free news
servers at
http://freenews.maxbaud.net/ .

If you only want to read and not post, probably the best (most newsgroups) is
news-read2.maxwell.syr.edu . If you want to post and are willing to
tolerate occasional outages, try
aioe.cjb.net . (They do not have any binary groups.)

While your ISP still provides newsgroup access, check out the group,
alt.free.newsservers .

Fred
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup4-Dec-2005/1:50:05
"Fred McKenzie" wrote in message
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> In article , "Celcius"
> wrote:
>
> > I've always found this newsgroup very informative and very professional.
> > > However, my ISP, Rogers, sent me a notice this morning that it was
> > > discontinuing its Newsnet feed starting December 15..
> > > I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
> > > *rec.photo.digital* .
> > > Can someone suggest a free alternative.
> > > Thanks.
>
> Marcel-
>
> I was faced with this problem when AOL ended their access to newsgroups.
> I found a web site that claims to furnish the latest info on free news
> servers at
> http://freenews.maxbaud.net/ .
>
> If you only want to read and not post, probably the best (most newsgroups)
is
> news-read2.maxwell.syr.edu . If you want to post and are willing to
> tolerate occasional outages, try
> aioe.cjb.net . (They do not have any binary groups.)
>
> While your ISP still provides newsgroup access, check out the group,
> alt.free.newsservers .
>
> Fred

Thanks, Fred!
Wanted: Free access to this Newsgroup5-Dec-2005/7:27:45
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, at 08:52:32 [GMT -0500] (00:52:32 Saturday, 3 December
2005 where I live) "Celcius" wrote:

> I find it senseless to pay for a feed for one newsgroup only:
> *rec.photo.digital* .
> Can someone suggest a free alternative.

Google. Web based but free.

Give your search another chance:
Google
 
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